I know of at least 8 people who have taken their lives, I have been close to it myself over how I have seen the child molesters treated and I got into a very deep depression from it all.
It is a very criminal religion as flipper says.
LITS
when i joined jws my mother said " you know they don't take blood and their suicide rate is much higher than general public.
in last three years i have known three young brothers all dead at their own hands, a gun ,a rope , plastic bag over head.
i knew these guys personally, it's one sad story after another.
I know of at least 8 people who have taken their lives, I have been close to it myself over how I have seen the child molesters treated and I got into a very deep depression from it all.
It is a very criminal religion as flipper says.
LITS
update on mouthy (grace gough)this is graces granddaughter.
i wanted to send an update that today my beautiful grandmother passed away - surrounded by friends and family.
- may 22 1927 - sept 2nd 2016. mouthys_granddaughter.
She was one of the first people on this board to reach out to me and got me in touch with flipper. I will always be so thankful to her, she was a wonderful person and will be deeply missed.
LITS
i was thinking about this because of the constant reminders we get in posts that we inactive non attenders have to be careful what we say to jw's, and what we do that they may learn about etc, if we don't wish to be before a j.c. the power they have is limited by what we give them.
now, i do not wish to be declared df'd of da'd, it would kill my old mum i think.. but i refuse to live my life looking over my shoulder, that, in my opinion, is giving them too much power.. i openly vote, i openly donate blood, i enjoy the odd cigar etc etc.. how much power do you allow them to have over you ?.
six I do not know if the pedophile has molested his grand children.
seven I do not even know if the pedophile really has grand-kids.
eight I can only go off what the sex-offender registry says.
nine sorry I cannot give out any names or congregation that I am with.
LITS
i was thinking about this because of the constant reminders we get in posts that we inactive non attenders have to be careful what we say to jw's, and what we do that they may learn about etc, if we don't wish to be before a j.c. the power they have is limited by what we give them.
now, i do not wish to be declared df'd of da'd, it would kill my old mum i think.. but i refuse to live my life looking over my shoulder, that, in my opinion, is giving them too much power.. i openly vote, i openly donate blood, i enjoy the odd cigar etc etc.. how much power do you allow them to have over you ?.
Blondie please help me understand your question???????? Really having a very hard time grasping what you are talking about? Who's children or grandchildren? The pedophiles? The elder? What are you talking about.
I guess every post I make now you come at me and either put me down or question me.
So OK. One the pedophile says he has 8 kids. None of them live where we are so I do not know if he has them or not as I have not seen or spoken to them I can only say what he says.
Two he is on the sex offender's list on the internet and the cop shop.
Three. If you were talking about the elder he does not have kids so
Four his grand-kids could not be molested as the a-fore mentioned that he does not have kids.
Five as most of the the other posters have pointed out the elders protect their families and though they do not tell the congregation they do make sure that their kids are protected.
But truly in all honestly Blondie I do not understand you question or why you are coming at me like this.
LITS
http://www.koaa.com/story/32799137/news-5-investigates-sex-offender-going-door-to-door.
by carlos vergara, investigative reporter.
colorado springs -66 year old waymon ivery is re-living a nightmare that happened more than two decades ago.
Rebel
I have heard that most pedophiles harm at least 10 children but usually only get caught for one child if that.
LITS
i was thinking about this because of the constant reminders we get in posts that we inactive non attenders have to be careful what we say to jw's, and what we do that they may learn about etc, if we don't wish to be before a j.c. the power they have is limited by what we give them.
now, i do not wish to be declared df'd of da'd, it would kill my old mum i think.. but i refuse to live my life looking over my shoulder, that, in my opinion, is giving them too much power.. i openly vote, i openly donate blood, i enjoy the odd cigar etc etc.. how much power do you allow them to have over you ?.
They can still come at you even years after you leave. In April of this year, 8 years after I stopped attending one of the elder's who loves pedophiles, and I mean really likes them and supports them, wants them to go door to door insists that they be allowed to go door to door, though come to think of it I have never seen him take them but only insist that I do oh yeah this yahoo dose not even go out that much himself, well this prominent elder even if he hardly goes out in service, called up out of the blue and started in again.
Really 8 years. It was and just just mind blowing. My feeling on accepting pedophiles, baby rapist, men or women who harm children has not changed, so why the HELL was he calling, just to fight over it again.
This religion has caused me so much pain it is unreal.
LITS
http://www.koaa.com/story/32799137/news-5-investigates-sex-offender-going-door-to-door.
by carlos vergara, investigative reporter.
colorado springs -66 year old waymon ivery is re-living a nightmare that happened more than two decades ago.
Vidiot that would be great question to ask.
Also they let this pedo brother man one of the tables they used at the local bus stop, They said it was OK because there were always at least two other JW's with him.
http://www.koaa.com/story/32799137/news-5-investigates-sex-offender-going-door-to-door.
by carlos vergara, investigative reporter.
colorado springs -66 year old waymon ivery is re-living a nightmare that happened more than two decades ago.
One of the pedo's in the hall I went to was a baptized JW when the rap of an 8 year old occurred, Oh wait he also served in the military and was some huge big shot he calmed, he would go on and on and on in his comments at the meeting about his military life, and also 'he did't really do the crime he only took the rap for his son as he did't want his son to have to go to prison. This is what one of the prominent in elder's in the hall told me and this elder said that it was commendable, just really missed placed thinking because this showed how much this baptized pedo brother loooooved his son, kind of like David and Absalom. Aint that just sweet. I am being sarcastic in case any of you don't get it.
It just makes my blood boil reading this.
i was thinking about this because of the constant reminders we get in posts that we inactive non attenders have to be careful what we say to jw's, and what we do that they may learn about etc, if we don't wish to be before a j.c. the power they have is limited by what we give them.
now, i do not wish to be declared df'd of da'd, it would kill my old mum i think.. but i refuse to live my life looking over my shoulder, that, in my opinion, is giving them too much power.. i openly vote, i openly donate blood, i enjoy the odd cigar etc etc.. how much power do you allow them to have over you ?.
More power than I would like also, partly because my husband is still in and I now realize that it is somewhat stuck in my brain. I hate it but I have stepped back and realized that when things go wrong or I do something like vote or send a birthday card or whatever I still feel like I have broken some law and feel like I am going to be caught.
It is totally crazy but at least I am acknowledging it, I think for so long I was lying even to myself that it did not affect me but growing up in it from the age of zero till I work up in my 40's it is stuck in my head and it just does not go away unless you realize it and work on it. That is my new goal.
Also to make friends that support me, when I first realized ttatt I panicked and jumped to ex JW and anyone who would befriend me. That turned out to be not so good as many ex JW are missed up also, I realize now that I need to slow down and respect myself instead of trying to get approval from other, like I felt I needed to in the JW world.
LITS
http://www.koaa.com/story/32799137/news-5-investigates-sex-offender-going-door-to-door.
by carlos vergara, investigative reporter.
colorado springs -66 year old waymon ivery is re-living a nightmare that happened more than two decades ago.
Where I live they were sending pedophiles or as I like to call them baby or child rapist out with some young person who has not a clue of their back ground. Or with the pedophiles wife who married him with a little girl like that would protect the public. It is just really and truly sick. They cannot be cured and some BS that he could not help it because he was in the war just shows that he has not regret as far as I see it. 95 to 99 percent re-offend period. Those are not odds I want to stake a child's life on. There is a special place in hell for those who are allowing it.
LITS